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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:09 pm    Post subject: Elektra # 1 Reply with quote

So what did you guys think of this issue? I have a very particular take on Elektra so I'm always cautious (for example, I don't like her portrayal in either TMWOF or Elektra: Assassin), but I thought this was a solid version. Plus, I'm a huge fan of Arcade. I think Las Vegas is a good fit for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Elektra # 1 Reply with quote

This wasn’t what I was expecting, in a good way. Quickly the story shows us the sin in Sin City, and with everything going on, it’s a busy place for Elektra try to forget about the everything she’s been through like fighting the Hand, loving Matt, and being stabbed by Bullseye. It must be frustrating for her to remember dying so vividly. Elektra definitely deserves a vacation between her recent job loss (I think she was Coulson’s replacement in S.H.I.E.L.D. for two issues of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. during Civil War II before it got cancelled) and having an imaginary daughter (from Daredevil 6-7). IMHO Owens has a good voice for Elektra. I enjoyed the whole red isn’t my color bit, and the chat between Elektra and Lauren is illuminating for both of their characters. While Elektra helping Lauren can be seen as a rote anti-abuse plot, it worked for me because it was nice to see Elektra make a new friend, I cared about Lauren due to their previous conversation, and it was an unexpected way to bring Elektra to Arcade’s attention. I really liked that Elektra was acting heroically to save Lauren and the others. It’s a good contrast to the other two spinoff books. A showman like Arcade is a great villain choice for Las Vegas, and apparently Screwball is from the Spider-man books, so it should be interesting to see them go up against Elektra.

Juann Cabal’s art is incredibly clean and reminds me of what I’d expect to see in a manga. He also gets extra points for the little worldbuilding touches such as the poster advertising that not only was there a Kraven the Musical but he was played by Tom Selleck. That’s hilarious. Antonio Fabela and Marcio Menyz also did a nice job with the bright vivid coloring and details like the blurred background at the bar. I like Elektra’s Netflix costume, so I had no problem with her wearing it in this book for corporate synergy. Finally, Elizabeth Torque’s cover was eyecatching, and I’m glad they chose it for the recap page.

Mike Murdock wrote:
So what did you guys think of this issue? I have a very particular take on Elektra so I'm always cautious (for example, I don't like her portrayal in either TMWOF or Elektra: Assassin), but I thought this was a solid version.

Agreed. Owens has said in interviews he’s trying to meld the Netflix portrayal with the comics version in this book, and I think he achieves it here. His Elektra is strong and thoughtful like the comics while still being warm and chatty like the show. I think it’s the right approach to strengthen Elektra as a protagonist in order to appeal to more readers. Maintaining a solo ongoing is not easy for a character to do, and Elektra needs to be a three dimensional person in order to keep an audience.

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Plus, I'm a huge fan of Arcade. I think Las Vegas is a good fit for him.

It’s such an obvious place for him it’s somewhat surprising it hasn’t been done before. Kudos to Owens for thinking of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know very little about Arcade. He was in one of the Marvel Alliance video games. That's about all my experience with him. I didn't really get much from him this issue. The reveal on the last page was kind of underwhelming, because all of the previous scenes which showed him from behind were kind of generic criminal mastermind scenes.

Far better were the interactions between Elektra and Lauren. Those scenes let me know exactly who both characters were. I hope Owens keeps Lauren around for a while. I like how Elektra is running from her past.

However, I found Elektra's "What are you even doing here?" line while looking in the mirror kind of at odds with what I know about her. I just assumed that if Elektra was at a casino, that there is either a bounty for her collect there, or a mission that is taking her there. She is always focused on a goal. She always knows why she is anywhere. So that line seemed out of character for me.

I enjoyed Juann Cabal's art, even though it seems that whenever a comic has a female main character, there is always a gratuitous butt shot. I'm okay with the costume, I guess. I'm partial to Elektra's original costume, but I get that the Netflix show is extremely popular, so the comics are going to use it. My only problem with that is that Netflix Elektra would have died fifteen times if it weren't for Matt, and that's what this costume never lets me forget. At least this Elektra seems like someone who can hold her own in a fight.

This is pretty good. I'll get the next issue.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Elektra # 1 Reply with quote

Mike Murdock wrote:
I have a very particular take on Elektra so I'm always cautious (for example, I don't like her portrayal in either TMWOF or Elektra: Assassin), but I thought this was a solid version.

I'm curious if you'd like Greg Rucka's run. I think he's a writer who had a strong handle on the character. (http://marvel.com/comics/collection/41545/elektra_by_greg_rucka_ultimate_collection_trade_paperback)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a good start. I'm not entirely sure why Elektra would be in Vegas but her connection and interactions with Lauren was a good way to ground her character early on and show a different side to her beyond being a super assassin.

I like this costume, somewhat elegant in it's simplicity. It's great seeing Arcade again, Vegas seems like a natural fit for his brand of mayhem and extreme death-traps.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Elektra # 1 Reply with quote

Dimetre wrote:
Mike Murdock wrote:
I have a very particular take on Elektra so I'm always cautious (for example, I don't like her portrayal in either TMWOF or Elektra: Assassin), but I thought this was a solid version.

I'm curious if you'd like Greg Rucka's run. I think he's a writer who had a strong handle on the character.

I would have agreed with you on Rucka until the ending. I understand he wanted to show Elektra as a strong woman, but as someone who considers herself a strong woman, it did not work for me at all and undermined his entire story. IMHO Elektra demonstrates compassion when appropriate given the love of her life is a blind man, and I’m glad that so far Owens agrees with me with how he's portrayed Elektra’s interactions with Lauren.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, one of Elektra's defining moments is not killing Foggy when she found out that was her target. She's capable of compassion just like she's capable of cold-blooded murder.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone read #2? I thought it was pretty good. Cabal's art is less detailed this issue, but he has a good sense of panel-to-panel flow. I'm not sure what Screwball's powers are, so I don't know what to expect of him as a fighter. Elektra is a formidable force again this issue, and quite ruthless as well. I'm still willing to check out where this story is going, so I'll get the next issue. I don't think this series is as good as Kingpin, but I like it better than Bullseye.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimetre wrote:
Has anyone read #2? I thought it was pretty good.

I enjoyed the second issue. I was happy to see that Elektra has an internal monologue here, even if it was more sarcastic and informal than I would have guessed.
Dimetre wrote:
Cabal's art is less detailed this issue, but he has a good sense of panel-to-panel flow. I'm not sure what Screwball's powers are, so I don't know what to expect of him as a fighter.

Me neither. It was a nice touch for the missing celebrities from the newspaper and magazine on Elektra’s coffee table to end up trapped with her. I’m not sure if the boxer and the two dancers will be much help; perhaps one of them has some hidden skills?
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Elektra is a formidable force again this issue, and quite ruthless as well. I'm still willing to check out where this story is going, so I'll get the next issue. I don't think this series is as good as Kingpin, but I like it better than Bullseye.

That’s how I’d rank the spinoffs as well. Bullseye is fun but a little narrow between the two dueling psychopaths, and Kingpin is an intriguing character piece with a lot of players while Elektra falls in between.

That said, I do like how Owens is making a point to purposely do new things with Elektra (making a friend in Lauren and using a techno grappling hook accessory) while not shying away from her existing connections (her love of NYC and remembering Daredevil and the Hand). I think this balanced approach along with the bright art is a good one to flesh her character out more in a way that can carry a book from month to month.
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