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End of Days Our Version
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james castle
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Overlord wrote:
I am wondering if End of Days would have better if it divided the story more equally between Matt's death and the mystery surrounding Matt's death. Perhaps build up Matt's death for a couple of issues and then have the mystery or do something with flashbacks to inter cut between the two time frames.


Wouldn't work. The problem is that both his death and the "mystery" were pointless. There was no actual story or good idea. Telling stories in different and interesting ways only works if you have a story to tell in the first place. Since the End of Days story was "Matt died for no particular reason and also named one of his six kids something weird" no amount of varied structure could have saved it.
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The Overlord
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Francesco wrote:
wow. I didn't think it possible, but someone found a way it could've sucked even more.


I am just spitballing here. If the point of the thread is discuss how the basic of concept of a final DD story could be interesting, then we should discuss ways to make that basic idea more interesting then the story we got.

If people here are disappointed that DD was killed so quickly and unceremoniously then maybe either DD's death should had more of a build, say 4 issues and then another 4 issues be about some sort mystery around DD's death or make the entire 8 issues about DD's death and ditch the whole mystery aspect.

If people here simply don't like the idea of a final DD story, that is fine, but then why even post on this thread in the first place? If there is one common complaint I have seen leveled at American comics, its that they have no ending and stretch things out and use "comic book time" where the characters never age to progress the heroes only to certain point.
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JoeWithoutFear
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was leafing through End of Days in a comic shop the other day. Even with my VERY limited knowledge of DD, I was like "no... not even close to canon."
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Clayton Blind Love
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just posted something negative on the boards, I wanted to come to this thread (where it seems eveyone here disliked it) and say that I liked End of Days. It is not perfect, but I enjoyed the art very much. Once I got over the Milla error and the redhead kids popping up everywhere, I was fine with it. It became easier to justify it as an Elseworlds-type of story in my mind. The star of the book really was the Punisher. I wouldn't mind it if this creative team came back and told their End of... Punisher story (even when I loved the Corben one).
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