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Kuljit Mithra · Hardcore Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1530 Location: Canada

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rgj · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject:

Nice words about Ann Nocenti, Joey Q. Now give her a damn Omnibus!! (or two). For me, she (and her stories) has stood the test of time. Funny, I don't really feel that when I think of Bendis's run. Actually, when I think of Bendis, now, all I can remember, sometimes, is Dan "the Bomb." Rolling Eyes

And, the awful Murdock Papers (can't belive that Skrull betrayed Matt to KP!).
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Kirika · Flying Blind Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 57

I have to say that I love the cover art for #500.

Despite what Mr. Q says, I am still more than a little skeptical about Diggle on DD. I didn't hate his Thunderbolts stuff, I just didn't really love it that much. Around the shop there has been a lot of negative twitter from the peanut gallery of fair weather readers. One even had me make a note on his pull list to drop the title when Diggle takes over. I am sad to see Bru go, but come on! That is going too far. Who knows, Diggle might just be great. While I remain reluctant to accept change, I curious to see how this is going to go.

jumonji · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject:

vtsoxfan7 · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject:

I've been a HUGE Brubaker fan so this is very sad news (now that it is official), especially considering it had sounded as though Bru had a couple more arcs outlined beyond 'Return of the King'.

I'm also a little surprised that people would drop a book so quickly, but then again that may be because I'm used to reading the generally positive thoughts of others on this board.

The cover to 500 is wicked sweet, even for Djurdjevic (another personal favorite). Does anyone know if there's been any word as to whether or not Lark will continue on interiors beyond 500?

I haven't read any of Diggle's previous work, but will be picking up the next two issues of Thunderbolts as they cross over with Deadpool. Any suggested readings of his to get a feel for what we may be able to expect? I'm definitely curious.
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james castle · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject:

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jumonji · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:36 am Post subject:

Thanks for the input, JC. I can see why money would have a lot to do with it (where you'd have to either be loyal to writers or to specific books or dig an ever deeper hole in your bank account). I'm still in the carefully branching out stage, I guess.

Dimetre · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:20 am Post subject:

vtsoxfan7 · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject:

Dimetre - thanks for the input. I may try and check that out - it kind of depends on what the bank account is looking like over the next couple of weeks.

I really hadn't read any of Brubaker's stuff before he started DD and in trying to check out some of his previous stuff I managed to get hooked on his Cap run as well and have pretty much started getting anything Brubaker with the exception of Uncanny. I refuse to get sucked in the X-Men universe on a monthly basis.

While I hope that I like Diggle's style/stories, I almost hope I don't like them TOO much as I can't afford more new stuff on such a regular basis. Very Happy

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Dimetre · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject:

So, I just checked out that interview with Andy Diggle, and compared it to the interview with Quesada about how Diggle ended up with the book. I find the differences between the two stories depressing.

Quesada says that Daredevil was Diggle's dream project, and that he was basically waiting in the wings, clamouring to be offered the book. Diggle's account is very, very different. He says that he wanted to basically focus on his creator-owned projects, but then Warren Simons offered him the book, and it sounded like a good fit for him, so he took it.

It's typical Quesada hype and misrepresentation of the truth. "We're going to love it! Diggle is going to be one of the greatest Daredevil writers ever, because he's going to give it his all! It's his dream project after all!" Now I know that is not the case. I'm sure Daredevil is a character that Diggle has enjoyed in the past, and it suits his style, I'm not sure he's going to put all of his energy into Daredevil, because I'm sure he reserves his greatest passion for his creator-owned projects.

I'm a huge Brubaker fan, and a huge Daredevil fan, but even I will concede that Ed probably made Captain America, Criminal and Incognito a higher priority than Daredevil. I just think Bucky Barnes inspires him like no other character out there right now, and I'm completely fine with that. His Captain America work is awesome! While I've enjoyed his Daredevil work for the most part -- and I certainly think it's superior to Bendis' work with the character -- I can understand some of the criticisms directed at the way Brubaker has handled the character. Maybe the comic would have been different if Daredevil was Brubaker's top priority.

My problem is that I don't think Daredevil sounds like it's going to be Diggle's top priority either. It would be nice if it was. It would be nice if Daredevil was treated that way by a writer. I'll stick with the book for Diggle's run, and see what he brings to it. I'm just really sick and tired of Quesada's hyperbole and lies, which prompted this post.

jumonji · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:32 am Post subject:

@Dimetre

I got a completely different impression from the Diggle interview and one that does resonate much more with what Quesada said.

What I think we can all agree happened here is that Brubaker decided to leave the book very suddenly. When Diggle got the call from Joey Q about Daredevil he, just like the rest of us, probably believed that Bru would stay on the book for at least another year or even two. It's also unlikely that Diggle would go to Quesada and say "Oh, by the way, when Ed is off the book, can I have a go?" because usually, people don't do things like that.

The feeling I got was that this really was the offer that was to good to pass up and I didn't ever get the feeling that he was insincere in saying that. He's even saying that he's putting his own stuff on hold to do this. What I think is a good sign is that Diggle does have less on his plate than Brubaker does.

Sure, there is some hype from Quesada (that's his job I guess), but I didn't read the Diggle interview and think for a second that it wasn't in line generally with what Quesada had to say. I'm taking a wait and see stance to Diggle, but I do get the feeling he really wants to do it.
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Isaac · Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:12 am Post subject:

I feel a little disappointed with Brubaker. Truth to be told, I haven't been enjoying Daredevil after the "Devil takes a Ride" arc. "To the Devil, his due" (I think it's the title) was plain boring to me and I had problems to finish reading the trade (maybe because I had already read the issues as scans), the whole Mister-Fear thing felt decompressed and it never had a feel of "reality" (as if the whole Hood thing were not realy happening, like a poor excuse...). Now I wanted to see something new from Brubaker, since I thought the last arcs were only a "warming up". He had stated he had already something planned. And then this. So I hope that Andy Diggle will do the work better as Brubaker and we can see something original in the book. 2-part or 3-part stories would be great, and I hope we won't see again a "Misterious Villain" plot. I also hope Kingpin dies...

Francesco · Underboss Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 1307

I think it's all in this passage of Joe's interview:

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