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Solid Snake PAC · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject:

Yeah but think about it. DD has the least amount of resources to go after his villains. Think about it. Superman is well Superman. Batman has all these things at his disposal. Spider-Man has tracers, webbing, etc. Plus his stamina is probably a lot higher than DD's to find those villains of his. Matt has himself and his billy clubs. Let's not forget that Matt tries to keep 2 lives. Matt Murdock and DD. 2 separate lives. He's never wanted to mesh them like Spider-Man eventually did. I love DD don't get me wrong. But...he's one guy using what very few resources he has. Yes he has those senses and that wonderful radar, but he's a man that stays in Hell's Kitchen. He segregates himself in there.

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Gloria · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject:

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harryhausen · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:48 am Post subject:

Anyone think that Lily had a hand (no pun intended) in Milla’s freak out? Maybe Ms. Lucca’s not so benign these days.

When Foggy is giving Milla the tea (could Lily have put something in it? She was keen to help Mr. Nelson make the coffee . . .), Lily seems to be watching with unnatural interest from the doorway. She even seems startled when Dakota mutters to herself behind her. Then, she insists on going along with Foggy and Milla, though she must know that her presence is pushing Milla over the edge (and that Foggy is likely to comply with her wishes). Finally, when she is nearly pushed in front of a train, her story is a little weird (. . . tried to kill me; I bumped/ knocked that man . . .) – of course, I guess she’s upset, there.

Anyway, I don’t trust her. Plus, is she not upset that her Dad is dead? Or did she know that the plan with Vanessa involved killing her Dad?

Don’t trust her, people, she smells funny.

Gloria · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:20 am Post subject:

Harryhausen, I am at two minds about Lily: she has been such an obvious badass in her previous appearances, that the obvious conclusion should be: yes, she's likely to be there to mess things around. Also, she's involved in both her father and Alton Lennox's deaths. She truly is not a little worm lost in the woods, and yes, while Foggy and Milla are talking she is snooping around (though it could well be out of boredom)

And yet, since this is the first thought that comes to mind, the real aswer might be... maybe it is not as obvious as it seems?

It could well be that she does really want to get a clean bill and forget her past, and she's just one more pawn in the tragedy. One of the things that makes me believe that she actually wants to change her ways is that Dakota seems to feel no great danger about Lily... Dakota is a Private investigator, used to deal with a lot of people , and one supposes her to be endowed with female intuition and she's not sensible to Lily's perfume: yet he lets Lily and Foggy to be on their own...

Matt no doubt has briefed Dakota about Lily's perilous ways... maybe Dakota perceives some good vibes about the bad girl?
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The Overlord · Paradiso Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 1095

One question though, is Lilly stupid enough to trust Mr. Fear to keep his end of the deal? She was already betrayed and nearly killed once, it seemed like Cranston would have been the one to suggest to Vanessa that tactic be used. Cranston is a psycho who only cares about his grudge against Matt, everything and everyone else is a tool to be used against him.

Gloria · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject:

Overlord,

This is one of the reasons why I think Lily might be no longer the girl she used to be. When she says to Foggy that Matt helped her "more than he even meant to", that leads me to think that her intentions are no longer evil: as you say, she might have learned something from what happened to her in "The Devil, Inside and out" and has therefore been healthily cautioned that people playing with fire get burnt. It would be very dumb of her to play again this kind of game.

Edit: Plus, Milla seems pretty unstable as he enters the firm's premises, I mean, before taking any tea.

Still, We don't really know: with Cranston around one is to expect great amounts of dubiousness.
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harryhausen · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject:

What if Lily thinks she's out of their clutches, but is still being used by Cranston in ways even she doesn't recognize?

I say have done with her. Matt needs to start getting it together, man. Who's that superhero that can't smell? Uh, I forget his name, but his intro went something like this:

He dwells in a world of eternal scentlessness – but that world is filled with the sounds and sights, tastes and textures that all the rest of can perceive, as well. Although chicken farmer Mark McCann is unable to smell, his other four senses (well, taste is affected, too) function with the regular acuity one might expect.

He's the one to take on Lily. Bru, get Mark McCann in on this one. Bru?

Gloria · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject:

Mmmh.... maybe it's simpler than that: the one thing Matt and Foggy need to have a conversation with Lily and still stay focused and sharp is just... a nose clip! Wink

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