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Kuljit Mithra
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james castle
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Hey KM, great interview. Good work with the questions. You really didn't shy away from anything did you?
The answers, on the other hand, are a little unsettling. I guess it's nice that people are enjoying this mini but I think the interview solidifies my feeling that the mini isn't exactly my cup of tea.
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Francesco
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Good work Kuljit.
| Quote: | | Mithra: Do you think Josie has always known Matt was DD, and do you hope some future DD writer will use this new info? Or even if she didn't, it would certainly make a visit from DD to Josie's Bar be very different now that his identity is semi-public. |
You mean that bar that was blown up in issue #72 (II)? |
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Kuljit Mithra
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| james castle wrote: | Hey KM, great interview. Good work with the questions. You really didn't shy away from anything did you?
The answers, on the other hand, are a little unsettling. I guess it's nice that people are enjoying this mini but I think the interview solidifies my feeling that the mini isn't exactly my cup of tea. |
Thanks. I figured I'd ask questions that he hasn't been asked before, since he's done quite a few interviews for the series already.
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Kuljit Mithra
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| Francesco wrote: | Good work Kuljit.
Thanks.
| Quote: | | Mithra: Do you think Josie has always known Matt was DD, and do you hope some future DD writer will use this new info? Or even if she didn't, it would certainly make a visit from DD to Josie's Bar be very different now that his identity is semi-public. |
You mean that bar that was blown up in issue #72 (II)? |
Was that Josie's Bar? I can't remember. Did Daredevil unmask in Josie's Bar in #50?
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Francesco
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| Yes, he did. And later, that guy of the church group, Archie Meyer, blew that bar up instead of Foggy's house. |
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Marvel Knight
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Great questions. I would say my favourite part of the Q & A was this:
| Quote: | Mithra: Jack Murdock has always, at least to me, been the tortured man who tried to do the best he could for his son, etc. Before you worked on this story, what did you think of the character, and what do you hope this series will show about him that we may not have known? Did Jack have a messiah complex? I only ask because of the choice of depicting Jack on the ropes and then Christ on the cross in the latest issue.
Di Giandomenico: To me Jack has always been a contradictory man, very human indeed, and this is the main heritage he left to his son. They both hide their real feelings and live two separates lives with two different personalities. No, Jack doesn't have the messiah complex, but only a deep sense of sacrifice which is typical of almost every father towards his son. He only wants to keep him off the violence he is involved in, he just wants his son to live a normal life. |
I think it's certainly true that Jack, like Matt, was a man of contradictions and extremes in a lot of ways. I think that's why there is so much dramatic appeal to these characters.
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Gloria
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That was a fine interview. Thanks you very much Kuljit
| Quote: | | Di Giandomenico: This is a good idea for a new mini-series, you know? Isn't it, Zeb? |
Interesting idea indeed.
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rgj
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| Quote: | Mithra: With this story, you've shown that Maggie became a nun after giving birth to Matt. Would it have been too controversial (to you, or Marvel) to have had her already a nun when she had her relationship with Jack?
Di Giandomenico: We never took this possibility into consideration: first, it would have been too hard for the readers to accept it, then it would have changed Jack's personality for ever. |
The fact that Di G. didn't even consider this (a much, much better idea) as a plot point demonstrates why, up until now at least, the story is mediocre at best. Don't get me wrong, it's not a terrible tale, but as I read the mini, I can only imagine how great it could have been.
Di G. claims it would have changed Jack's personality forever. How?? His love for Maggie wouldn't change whether she was a nun or not. All Di G did was reduce Maggie's character. He simplifed her into some brainwashed, guilt ridden, religious nut, who thinks abandoning a child is less of a sin than having premarital sex and getting pregnant. And, seriously, does it only take six months to become a nun?? Then agian, I don't really know.
I also think the whole business with Matt knowing his father has to take a dive, and Matt showing up all Daredeveilish pre-fight was kind of, ah hell, paint by numbers. I'm sure Jack will (somehow) get a look at Matt's bruise and connect the dots.
Anyway, up until now, the story hasn't been all that. And, unfortunately, if another writer wants to add stuff to Maggie's character, the blue print is that she was nutty when she had Matt. Wow.
But, anyway, I'll get the last issue. Maybe I'll be blown away by the finale. Then again, I'm reading some Vertigo comics right now, and I just don't think this last issue, like much of Marvel these days, will measure up to that.
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james castle
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If Jack "figures out" that Matt can protect himself and that somehow plays into why Jack decided not to throw the fight then the whole Battlin' Jack Murdock aspect of Matt's origin will be much, much worse off for it.
Also, the bit in the interview about why Maggie gave up the baby and became a nun makes very little sense to me.
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markc
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I seem to be in the minority in that I really enjoyed this mini, It's the best take on Jack Murdock yet. I've always found him fascinating, he knew winning the fight would cost him his life, yet he does it. What kind of guy would do that. I think this mini covers that pretty well. I like how his life plays out to him while he's in the ring, like he's finding his heart and his sense of worth in the midst of this brutal fight. It's kind of corny, but if I didn't like that a little I wouldn't be reading comics at all.
I know there are continuity quibbles here, but I really get the sense of this guy being Matt's father. No matter how smart Matt gets, he still turns to violence to solve problems. Like his dad, he's haunted by guilt and is unable to sustain meaningful relationships. He's full of contradictions and always seems to be heading toward tragedy.
Also, in this series Matt seems to understand that Jack is one of the bad guys for a long time, but one who redeems himself in the end. Is this why Matt champions Melvin Potter?
Best DD mini a long time! |
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| i enjoyed the first 2 issues of the book quite a bit. issue 3 was really lackluster IMO. i agree with rgj's and jc's previous posts. i don't like the idea of Jack knowing that his boy has special ablilities and i don't like the idea of Matt knowing that Jack was supposed to throw the fight. hopefully, iss 4 will melt my face. |
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Dave Wallace
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| markc wrote: | | I know there are continuity quibbles here... |
As I understand it, this mini has been released under the new Marvel Knights banner, meaning that it isn't beholden to the continuity of the regular Marvel Universe. Other series released under the new MK banner are Spider-Man: Reign, Silver Surfer: Requiem and Captain America: The Chosen - all of which have deviated from regular continuity to a greater or lesser extent. |
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Neilan
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| Dave Wallace wrote: | | markc wrote: | | I know there are continuity quibbles here... |
As I understand it, this mini has been released under the new Marvel Knights banner, meaning that it isn't beholden to the continuity of the regular Marvel Universe. Other series released under the new MK banner are Spider-Man: Reign, Silver Surfer: Requiem and Captain America: The Chosen - all of which have deviated from regular continuity to a greater or lesser extent. |
I see what you're saying about Marvel Knights not having to follow continuity, but this series seems to specifically target the DD fan who is well versed in the mythos. First, there's the use of long standing characters like Josie, Maggie, and the cameos by Turk and Stick (I didn't even notice him, until I read Kuljit's interview). To me, this seems like it's designed to appeal to us old fans, to shed more light on these characters. But, more importantly, there's the fact that this mini never even explains that Matt will become Daredevil. You have to come to it knowing that he gets extraordinary abilities. That's my biggest complaint about it. Jack just assumes that because Matt was able to beat up 2 hoods, that he will be able to protect himself. He doesn't know about his boosted senses or his radar, but still thinks that Matt will be safe. From mobsters with guns? Seems weak. Which segues into my other complaint, which is minor. Jack repeatedly referring to Matt as weak, in his thoughts, seemed forced. He's blind, not necessarily weak.
Still, I thought this series was pretty good. I wouldn't say that it's required reading, but I did enjoy it. If this creative team produces another DD series, I would check it out.
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Gloria
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Di G. claims it would have changed Jack's personality forever. How?? His love for Maggie wouldn't change whether she was a nun or not. All Di G did was reduce Maggie's character. He simplifed her into some brainwashed, guilt ridden, religious nut, who thinks abandoning a child is less of a sin than having premarital sex and getting pregnant. And, seriously, does it only take six months to become a nun?? Then agian, I don't really know.
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Anyway, up until now, the story hasn't been all that. And, unfortunately, if another writer wants to add stuff to Maggie's character, the blue print is that she was nutty when she had Matt. Wow. |
rgj, Di Giandomenico lives in a country where the predominant religion is Catholicism and it impregnates heavily the traditions and daily live, even if you are not a religious person. So I think his take of Maggie isn't due to ignorance about how nuns might behave in a similar situation.
Unlike Priests of other christian denominations, Catholic priests have to renounce to any type of marital life in order to follow their vocation. The same goes for nuns and monks... and there's alot (I mean A LOT) of people torn between their desire to serve God and their... more earthly inclinations. Some can't stand that and eventually abandon their vocation, others cope with it, others suffer in silence.
Mind you, it is not only a love live what a nun gives up on taking the habits, his close family links are also greatly forsaken as a nun's life is God and her community. So I can imagine -if not condone- the mentality that prompted Maggie to act as she did. When you grow up in a religious environment, and have a strong -or, well, nutty- religious bent, you may react in ways which wouldn't seem reasonable, or decent, to people who thinks according to right and reason: To me it was very wrong of Maggie to abandon Matt, but I realize Maggie was on a frame of mind very different from mine.
There's a lot of popular melodramas about priests and/or nuns where the plot is triggered by the fact that the protagonist is torn between his religious call and his/her earthly love for a someone. I gave examples of old melodramas in another thread, but I could add a film like Otto Preminger's "The Cardinal" or the TV series "the Thorn Birds" with Richard Chamberlain.
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