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[Clayton Blind Love]

[The Overlord]

[Darediva]

I'm leaning a little toward the Vanessa Fisk theory. She and Matt did seem to part on good terms, but maybe she has changed her mind since the Kingpin is now in prison. She has been mentally unstable in the past.

Has anyone thought about how Matt might regain some of his life after he gets back from galavanting around Europe? Will the firm now become Murdock and Blake if Foggy is "relocated"? Will Matt even get to practice law again, or will he wash dishes while Becky tries the cases? Will Milla become insanely jealous of Becky and Dakota North? Hmmm?
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Those who throw dirt merely lose ground.

[Forrest]

I'd like to see the mastermind be Elektra.

(Of course, this would end up being a complex story.)
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[rgj]

[Forrest]

[Forrest]

[Clayton Blind Love]

I must be losing my mind thinking about this mystery. This is obviously the greatest compliment I could give Bru and Lark. I don't have time to worry about my problems. A Daredevil mystery on the brain is the perfect escape from stress. Well, it won't beat exercise, but nothing beats that.

Anyhow, The Overlord got me thinking about the second attempt made on Foggy's life. Something I had forgotten when I proposed my Nick Fury theory the first time around. So, I dove in #88 last night and a few things came to my attention that might not of grabbed my attention the first time around.

Pg. 13 - Two supposed hitmen waiting in a car outside of Foggy's safe house. One says to the other, "our guy managed to get this Nelson into witness relocation without tipping off the higher ups." Further on the same man says, "I just overheard the boss talkin' to some lawyer about this crap." There is really a lot of stuff happening on this page that warrants reading again, but these two points of converstation are worth noting. The hit on Foggy failed and the person/organization knew this immediately. It was either intended all along to place Foggy into witness protection or it was a fluke that this person/organization knew that they had to search for a supposed "dead" guy from the time Foggy disappeared. We know that Alton really knew nothing and was only following the command of someone else. Well, his death signifies that he could of revealed the identity of the boss. That much is known.

Pg. 16 - Foggy escapes from the safe house and enters a cab driven by a supposed hitman in cover. The driver says, "Just take it easy, Nelson... no one wants to hurt you. Just got to make a delivery." Pg. 17 - Cab takes Foggy to the junkyard where an army of men are waiting for him (an army to take out Foggy?). Cab driver/hitman has trouble getting Foggy out of the cab. Another man approaches and says, "What's the problem?" He is told that Foggy won't get out. To which he replys, "Let me talk to..." (at this point Elektra's Hand shows up to rescue Foggy).
You have to wonder why this supposed attempt on Foggy's life this second time is so much different than the attempt made the first time.
A prisoner beats up Foggy and then stabs him in the chest once and walks away. Maybe I'm reading into this too much, but the prisoner stabs him ONLY once and doesn't even attempt to break the shiv (homemade knife) in half to ensure the damage has an excellent chance to become fatal? Surely, those of us that read/watch prison stories know that if someone wants to ensure death from a shiv, then they break it while it enters the body and it helps to stab a few time before breaking it off.
The second attempt is quite the opposite. There is no immediate danger to Foggy's life. The mystery man/woman/organization does not command the troops to kill Foggy at first chance. The cab driver has the means to end Foggy right there in the cab. All we know is that Foggy is meant to be kept alive and he is supposed to be told something. This doesn't feel like someone wants Foggy dead at all.

So, here we have it. Someone knew from the very beginning that Foggy either wasn't supposed to die in the prison or that someone is just that extra cautious and knew that Foggy could survive the stabbing and disappear. Which raise the point, how does someone know to look for a dead guy if they're already "dead."

The Nick Fury conspiracy lives!!!
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[Clayton Blind Love]

Here is another suspect to throw out there. You would have to go way back to issue #83 to notice this. Keep in mind, I'm hanging eveything on the idea that someone betrayed Matt/DD. Someone was basically a good person, but now is bad (at least in Matt's eyes). Who else could stab Matt in the back?

Rosalind Sharpe?

Pg. 4 - Rosalind says, "You got my boy killed!" To which Matt thinks to himself, "It's uncharacteristic of Ms. Sharpe to show so much emotion. But funerals aren't normal places, and you never know what you'll learn."

Cold woman showing a warm heart?

Maybe she took a play out of Vanessa Fisk's playbook and attempted to off her own stepson. Going back to Guardian Devil, she obviously disowned her stepson when her business practice took damage due to Foggy's murder accusation. Her livelihood meant more than Foggy's life at that point. Her focus here of course, would be to inflict the most damage on Matt due to her success being threatened by her past association with Matt in a law practice. Matt goes to jail for being Daredevil and lawyers, police, judges, etc... (people whose careers might cross paths with Rosalind) gossip about Rosalind's previous association with Matt and how maybe she knew Matt was Daredevil (even though the reader knows the fact is she didn't). Just maybe, the damage to her career so threatening or beyond repair that she crosses over now to the "bad guy" side.
Rosalind defended Fisk during the "Parts of a Hole" storyline and successfully got Wilson off. She has had this connection to a mastermind with unlimited resources for a while now. Perhaps Fisk is willing to let Rosalind to play the game using his resources. Or perhaps, she is using Fisk's resources without his knowledge.

This could be the betrayal. A former law partner with ties to the mafia whose name is smeared and worthless now that Matt was sent to jail and has since escaped.

Not likely. I couldn't explain why she would have Danny Rand dress up as Daredevil and mislead the public.

Nick Fury is more likely than this.

C.
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[Clayton Blind Love]

Hello, me again. Just yapping to myself here.

I think it has to be assumed that the mystery boss is connected to eveything in Bru and Lark's run from their start to now.

Alton Lennox hires Danny Rand to be Daredevil. Why does the mystery boss want this? What purpose does this serve?

This is the very first thing that we know of that Alton Lennox does and it is assumed that the mystery boss wants this. Before the attempt on Foggy's life. Before the emloyment of Lily, Tombstone, the new Matador. Before the use of a powerful perfume. The first objective is to have Danny Rand parade around in a Daredevil suit. Why is this so important to the mystery boss? How does this serve the interests of mystery boss? Why was Danny Rand the right choice to be Daredevil? Why not Peter Parker/Spider-Man? Isn't he the best choice?

(to answer that last question - maybe, at the time, Peter was on the wrong side of the war)

Find a name that fits well in that summary and everything else comes after.

C.
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[Isaac]

Oh, how good would be the Sharpe option. But so, so twisted, that I rather don't think so. Read the summary to number 93? They refer to Kingpin having something to do with this all. Old rancid stiff? What if Kingpin had one of this thingies installed in the heart, the kind of thing you get after a heart attack? I don't know how to say it in English, but someone remembers the time Murdock defended a guilty man during first Miller's run, basing on the regularity of his heartbeat when he lied? And it would be likely for Kingpin to have one, since he was stabbed practically to death. (What a poor man lately: blinded, stabbed, hit by a car... He is so overused I would like to seem he die, and then having Matt killing Bullseye, all in a row, and then Elektra revealed as being a robot or something, and killed, and buried with the mouth full of garlic heads.)
There is for sure someone with some kind of organization behind, as seen in the Nelson one-shot. Rosalind to be the bad guy would rock, but I see is really too twisted... Not too likely.

[The Overlord]

[The Overlord]

[rgj]

I like Clayton's attempt to decipher the truth. I can see his point on Nick Fury. And, while I don't think Fury is "sadistic", I think he is defenitley an ends justifies the means kind of guy. But, what's the point? Bru said DD will have nothing to do with Civil War and it would be a waste of our time if this whole exercise (and foreign trip and Foggy's attempted assassination) is for the sake of the crappy Civil War storyline. And, also, isn't there an assumption here that "whoever" tried to kill Foggy was also responsilbe for the FBI going after Matt? Why would Fury go "after" Matt to begin with?? Still, there is something fishy about Foggy's attmpted assassination (as Clayton pointed out that the cab driver--mob guys?--could have offed Foggy pretty quickly, it seemed that they just wanted to talk to him before the Hand came in and sent him back to the safehouse). Anyway, its apparent that the assassination attempt was never intended to actually kill Foggy. It's not a coincidence that shortly after Foggy gets cut that an ambulance is ready to take him "away" to have surgery, and NOT at any hospital. HOLY CRAP!!, is Dakota North in on it? Heck, she is leading Matt with tips throughout Europe. And, of course, the whole Foggy's funeral. I still think its amazing that it was a closed casket funeral. Foggy was not disfigured. Why would it be closed casket?? WHO IDENTIFIED THE DEAD BODY??? You can't have a funeral like that one unless the body is identified!!

rgj

[Clayton Blind Love]

Lets face it, who of any real importance has actually died so far? Some prisoners. Some mobsters. Alton Lennox. Certainly this must of been worth it to keep Danny Rand in a Daredevil suit and Matt distracted into believing Foggy death and chasing ghosts.

C.
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