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What did you think of DAREDEVIL #10? |
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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So I was watching one of my favorite recent youtube channels, Strip Panel Naked, and they had one about Horror in Comics. It made me think the biggest disappointment of this issue - I didn't get the creepy vibe I was hoping for in the final reveal.
Now, granted, it was spoiled for me, so that's a contributing factor, but that video talks about some techniques that could have amplified things. Instead, things come off a little too pedestrian. Soule is more focused on the technical aspects of how Daredevil would figure it out more than anything else. A good example of something genuinely creepy would be Daredevil #239 (the true first start of Ann Nocenti's run). It's the Rotgut story and the story wastes no time creating a revulsion to the character through dialogue, plotting, and Louis Williams's art.
All that being said, I think there's still plenty of time to up the horor and creep factor, but I definitely think it needs to be upped. _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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Francesco Underboss
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:02 am Post subject: |
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This issue bored the crap out of me, blindspot is basically an expy Terry Mc Ginnis and Soule still didn't reveal how everyone forgot about the identity, and looks like he's not planning to do it soon.
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Darkdevil Humanity's Fathom

Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 331 Location: The Bright, Sunny South
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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A decent set-up to what appears to be an interesting mystery.
Seeing more of Matt's work as ADA as well as how some of his fellow co-workers feel about and treat him was appreciated.
Blindspot played his role here, of course, since he is after all DD's sidekick, a role Soule made perfectly clear since this run's start so I don't really see how you can complain about any undue focus Sam may receive. So far, I've enjoyed how Soule has prompted this partnership forward and here there were some interesting moments in regards to Sam's illegal status, both from Matt and from DD. The Ghost Shrine bit was a nice touch too.
They need to do better though in displaying his invisibility. Only seeing the effects of his actions may work well in movies/TV but comics can expand on the visual medium in ways movies/TV cannot. Take some hints from how the Invisible Woman has been showed invisible over the years for example.
As for the ongoing ID issue, it is starting to feel grating. We've seen some of the consequences of Matt's 'deal' to restore his identity and even the hints from Ellen his co-worker here was nice. But it's referenced now on the very beginning info page. It's been thrust to the forefront and I feel Soule must pay off with this reveal soon or else risk losing any form of dramatic impact whatsoever.
The murder scene was engaging, the implications slightly shocking. As Mike suggested, it would be nice to see Soule and Garney amp up the horror aspect of this. And really, how is recognizing 113 distinct blood samples different from any other exaggerated super-sense feat that Matt has performed under other writers over the years?
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Dimetre Underboss
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Darkdevil wrote: | Blindspot played his role here, of course, since he is after all DD's sidekick, a role Soule made perfectly clear since this run's start so I don't really see how you can complain about any undue focus Sam may receive. |
I feel complaints are valid because it feels that the mysteries involve Sam first and foremost, and Matt is only there to help. Yes, Blindspot is an inexperienced superhero, and he therefore will need guidance, but I feel the stories would be more engaging if they were in a Blindspot book, not a Daredevil one. Tenfingers was affecting Sam's family, not Matt's. This new mystery affects Blindspot's community, not Matt's. These aren't good story choices for a book called Daredevil.
As I said earlier, I now think Blindspot would be a good series for Marvel to at least try as a mini-series.
Darkdevil wrote: | And really, how is recognizing 113 distinct blood samples different from any other exaggerated super-sense feat that Matt has performed under other writers over the years? |
Because Matt isn't a hematologist. He went to school to study law. He may be able to sense a slight difference between O+ and AB-, but he know what makes them seem different, since that's not his area of expertise? Also the blood was dried and oxidized on the canvas, and he's still able to guesstimate 113? It's a safe guess that the samples were somewhat mixed together. Various writers have strained believability regarding Matt's senses throughout the decade, and it harms nothing to call them out. I found this one particularly glaring. I guess Soule needed a cliffhanger and this provided a grisly one, even if it's very silly. |
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Daredevil24 Humanity's Fathom
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Dimetre wrote: | Darkdevil wrote: | Blindspot played his role here, of course, since he is after all DD's sidekick, a role Soule made perfectly clear since this run's start so I don't really see how you can complain about any undue focus Sam may receive. |
I feel complaints are valid because it feels that the mysteries involve Sam first and foremost, and Matt is only there to help. Yes, Blindspot is an inexperienced superhero, and he therefore will need guidance, but I feel the stories would be more engaging if they were in a Blindspot book, not a Daredevil one. Tenfingers was affecting Sam's family, not Matt's. This new mystery affects Blindspot's community, not Matt's. These aren't good story choices for a book called Daredevil.
As I said earlier, I now think Blindspot would be a good series for Marvel to at least try as a mini-series.
Yep, totally my feelings. I don't think starting a run, focusing on a side-kick, while so many unanswered questions remain in the title character's life is a good idea. Blindspot is okay, but if he had a mini I probably wouldn't read it. I don't read Daredevil to see everything he does revolve around Blindspot(though I may be a bit exaggerating here). Even the new solicit suggest that Matt is going to be involved in some subplot with Medusa while Blindspot confronts Muse. I have not enjoyed this book since the Elektra two-parter, and the finale was a let down in my opinion.
Darkdevil wrote: | And really, how is recognizing 113 distinct blood samples different from any other exaggerated super-sense feat that Matt has performed under other writers over the years? |
Because Matt isn't a hematologist. He went to school to study law. He may be able to sense a slight difference between O+ and AB-, but he know what makes them seem different, since that's not his area of expertise? Also the blood was dried and oxidized on the canvas, and he's still able to guesstimate 113? It's a safe guess that the samples were somewhat mixed together. Various writers have strained believability regarding Matt's senses throughout the decade, and it harms nothing to call them out. I found this one particularly glaring. I guess Soule needed a cliffhanger and this provided a grisly one, even if it's very silly. |
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Dimetre wrote: |
I feel complaints are valid because it feels that the mysteries involve Sam first and foremost, and Matt is only there to help. |
The reason I liked Matt discovering the thing was because it gave us an opportunity to focus on Matt in court on the night crew. In the past, it could be Foggy, a girlfriend, or a police officer discovering something like this. I don't see it really as any different. _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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Daredevil24 Humanity's Fathom
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Murdock wrote: | Dimetre wrote: |
I feel complaints are valid because it feels that the mysteries involve Sam first and foremost, and Matt is only there to help. |
The reason I liked Matt discovering the thing was because it gave us an opportunity to focus on Matt in court on the night crew. In the past, it could be Foggy, a girlfriend, or a police officer discovering something like this. I don't see it really as any different. | For one issue or two it's cool, but his whole run so far seems heavily focused front and center on Blindspot and how things effect him rather than how they effect our boy. Not to mention that's a lot of panel time for a brand new character, especially while so many loose plots hang over the title character from his last series. Just my two cents. |
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Daredevil24 wrote: |
For one issue or two it's cool, but his whole run so far seems heavily focused front and center on Blindspot and how things effect him rather than how they effect our boy. |
Sure, but I'm just talking about this comic how it works on its own. _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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Francesco Underboss
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'll point the elephant in the room of this whole run
"Daredevil has sidekick" doesn't work. |
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Darkdevil Humanity's Fathom

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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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The majority of the complaints center on the focus being split between Sam and Matt, perhaps even being lopsided in favor of Sam over Matt. Really though, Soule has been portraying this type of partnership in a decent way. Sam is Matt's sidekick so why wouldn't we see him mentoring/helping him in the ways that Soule has depicted so far?
All I'm saying is that from the very start of his run, Soule has said that Matt will have a sidekick. If Blindspot had just appeared all of a sudden with no notice and then received this much attention, then you may have a point. Yet all I've seen so far is Soule depicting exactly the partnership that he said he was going to focus upon from the start.
Now whether or not Matt needs such a partnership at all is a separate question. |
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Daredevil24 Humanity's Fathom
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Just because Soule warned us ahead of time doesn't mean we have to like it, though. I don't care for Blindspot. I honestly don't think he's all the interesting and I'd much rather see his panel time go towards Elektra, Echo or more on Matt's personal life. I still don't even know why Matt decided to train him, all I know is Blindspot wanted to make a difference in his community and Matt took him in and next thing you know they were training on the rooftops. |
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Daredevil24 Humanity's Fathom
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Francesco wrote: | I'll point the elephant in the room of this whole run
"Daredevil has sidekick" doesn't work. | This. |
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

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Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:33 am Post subject: |
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That's not an elephant, though, it's an opinion. One given without explanation as well. _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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Francesco Underboss
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 5:12 am Post subject: |
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boo hoo. |
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Mike Murdock Golden Age

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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:16 am Post subject: |
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I understand it's a strongly held opinion, I'm not disagreeing with that.
Let me ask you this. Do you think it works when Daredevil has a partner (as opposed to a sidekick)? _________________ Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
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