Daredevil Message Board

[james castle]

Exactly. At this point I think Marvel is expending TOO much energy saying it isn't a reboot. They doth protest too much. Sure, they will continue to say it isn't a reboot but when they shuffle everything around and basically start afresh - it's a reboot.

For example, say Karen comes back. Unless the characters refer to and basically constantly comment on the fact that she used to be dead, it's a reboot.
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[Mike Murdock]

Then again, there's a surprising amount of promotional material promoting female Thor, old Captain America, and old Logan - individuals heavily tied to current continuity and not the kinds of things you'd keep if you were going to jettison everything and start fresh.

Frankly, as much as I don't want a new reboot, it seemed the logical thing to do with what they were doing and I'm now kinda surprised that there are signs to the contrary.
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[DesignDevil]

[Francesco]

1) Karen
2) new characters from the TV series (a la Coulson for the MCU)
3) back to New York
4) Voila you no longer have cancer.

[Darkdevil]

Many of you here seem to be in favor of bringing Karen back. If SW somehow does restore Karen, it may be an alternate universe Karen instead of 'our' Karen. I've yet to read Ultimate Daredevil so I don't know if the Ultimate version of Karen is still alive, but would you all be satisfied if an alternate version of Karen returned to Matt's life?

[LightningandIce]

I'm going to take a risk and go against the common opinion here. Unless it ends up being a complete reboot - which we've been told it's not - then I do not want to see Karen come back. I've never liked it when fictional stories just bring characters back from the dead just for hype or drama. It would be nice for Matt to have a good love interest again, but resurrecting a long dead character when there are far more practical options is just cheap and contrived. It would be just as bad as bringing back his father. This might sound a little extreme, but to me, bringing Karen back would be worse than the suit.

[DesignDevil]

Yeah I don't see Karen being brought back from the dead. Thats why I said previously a version of Karen might be introduced. A refuge from another world could be interesting if done right. That would be new dynamic between her and Matt and Foggy.

There is no rhyme of reason for our Karen, a human who's been dead for years, to be resurrected in some way.

And they can't try to "One More Day" it and say she never died because her death was the first domino that led to every major event and story over the last 15 years. Those 15 years couldn't exist anymore and we've pretty much established Marvel doesn't/isn't going to have the balls for a full restart.

Of course this is Marvel so they'll probably choose the silliest way possible to actually resurrect Karen and then BS their way through the reasoning behind it.

[Mike Murdock]

[kentuckydevil]

[Mike Murdock]

I liked the theory that they're going back to their creative height. To me, Daredevil's creative height was Frank Miller's run, so some combination of classic run and Born Again would be appropriate (essentially, the beginning of Nocenti's run without Matt being disbarred). I should also clarify that I don't think Nocenti's villains will be erased (although if you told me they already had been except for Typhoid Mary, I might have believed you), just that a lot of the character development since Born Again would be erased.
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[Francesco]

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, I don't have huge concerns either way. The only thing I'd probably actually wish to reset is Daredevil's secret identity. Just Mephisto that $%@& away and I'd be good.
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[kentuckydevil]

[The Overlord]

[Darkdevil]

Man, I find it strange that some of you may be willing to accept a entire line-wide reboot if only it will undo and/or correct what Waid has done so far.

The secret identity issue, I can understand. I applaud Waid for having the gusto to try this experiment and in exploring the ramifications of exposing your identity but I think it's time to put the genie back in the bottle.

I also had little issue with his moving to San Fran, especially since Matt had already moved there before. But Hell's Kitchen is home so I hope he does return to NYC too.

But with Foggy's cancer, I kinda hope they don't undo that. It's a real-life issue, Waid handled it with grace and aplomb, and it strengthened the bond of friendship between Matt and he. Certainly, Vol. 3 handled it much better. In Vol. 4, it's been swept to the wayside for some unknowing reason, but I'd hate to lose that character growth, for both of them, due to some form of reboot.