Daredevil Message Board

[Kuljit Mithra]

And the last press release:

WARZONES!
Marvel Presents the Last of Three New Series Banners For SECRET WARS!

New York, NY—January 23, 2015— The future begins here! When everything ends, there is only Secret Wars. Today, Marvel is proud to announce WARZONES!, the final umbrella of titles launching during Secret Wars! WARZONES! joins LAST DAYS and BATTLEWORLD as the three different categories of titles launching throughout Secret Wars, each with their own unique type of story to tell!

“If you want a glimpse of what the future holds, you’ll find it in the WARZONES titles,� says Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso. “Our creators let their imaginations run wild as they lay down the foundations for the future. Whether we’re revisiting the most popular events from Marvel’s past or telling completely new stories, you won’t believe what we’ve got in store for you.�

All that remains in the cosmos is Battleworld, the strange, patchwork realm playing host to countless realities, all existing side-by-side, fused into a single planet! Titles carrying the WARZONES! banner tell stories of the individual dominions of Battleworld. What happens within their borders? What heroes guard their skies? What villains conspire within? How does over 75 years of Marvel’s epic history play out now that Battleworld is all there is?

“To be clear, WARZONES! titles are NOT fill-ins. These are the event caliber books, magnified to the Nth degree,� says Marvel SVP Sales & Marketing David Gabriel. “Secret Wars has afforded us a completely unique opportunity to tell huge, epic, event-sized stories within the framework of this new, patchwork planet – events within events. These titles will lay the building blocks and groundwork for what’s next, if that gives any indication of how important they are!�

While the Secret Wars rage on, the foundation of a new Marvel Universe take shape within the war-torn domains across Battleworld. The future of Marvel begins in the WARZONES!
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[admiralpetty]

[Guardian-Devil]

[train]

For some reason, I think this sounds like a pretty cool idea. I'm all for wiping the slate clean and starting again. That's one of the things that I enjoyed about the movies. The root of the character is there, but there are a few tweaks to the origin or the villain that made it fresh to an old guy like me. I even think those iconic stories can be wiped as well. Why not? It doesn't make the story any less enjoyable to re-read and it gives the new writers an unplowed field to play in.

[LightningandIce]

I have mixed feelings. I don't care much for big crossovers, but whatever. It sounds good in theory but in practice these things usually just turn into gimmicks.

What I would like to see is a permanent, satisfying ending to the long term characters that allows them all to live happily ever after. If they were going to do it, I would rather see the books get their own organic endings in-story rather than mashing everything together in some big contrived "Crisis" knockoff.

As far as the reboot goes, I would be completely okay if it were a true reboot. I do not want to see some kind of retcon where they just change characters back to the way they were before but they are still the same characters in the same continuity as before. I also don't want an "alternate universe." Just start completely over, blank slate, no history, just brand new, the same way like they are doing with the movies.

[admiralpetty]

[jriddle]

[DesignDevil]

I meant to say in my original post, I'm 100% in favor of a total ground zero restart for all of Marvel. I just don't think they will. The previous list was what I think we'll see. They will copy DC (like they've never done that before ) and it will be half assed, because they won't have the guts to disregard all their history and start completely over.

However it falls with this "reboot", Daredevil and so many other characters deserve a real ending in their books. As others have said, to give closure, not a "to be continued in Secret War Tie-In# **** all". Which is what we're unfortunately very likely to get.

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, I think that's the biggest problem I have. There are lots of creative writers doing their own tales and most of them will get cut short in an unsatisfactory way to do a reboot instead.
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[james castle]

What I don't get is how continuity gets in the way anyway. Sure, there are big moments like Born Again and Last Rites but there's also Playing to the Camera or that time DD fought The Surgeon General. The magic of comics is that all this stuff sort of did but also sort of didn't happen.

Is anyone enjoying Waid's run any less because they don't know about the time Daredevil fought the Bengal or they're not super clear who or what a Micah Sin is? Does anyone not like Colossus because they don't know he went through the Siege Perilous and became a painter and also died, but didn't, curing what was essentially mutant AIDS? No. All this stuff is fun for people who know it and has no effect on people who don't.

The only small issue is people who nitpick continuity across decades but those people will never be happy anyway.

A reboot is more of a marketing move than anything else.
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So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing?

[train]

There are things that are ignored in regard to continuity but I think your missing the bigger picture. Like you mentioned, most won't raise a stink if a story runs against the continuity of Angar the Screamer. But with the current universe, Waid decides to write a story that brought Karen back to life with no explanation it would be met with resistance. That's why I'm cool with a complete reboot.

[james castle]

[jriddle]

[Mike Murdock]

[train]

The beauty of a reboot is that you'd be able to twist continuity around in ways that a simple resurrection story can't. Let's say the writer wants to do a love triangle story with Karen Page, Matt and Heather Glenn. With a blank slate, it's possible to do things that would otherwise be inaccessible. It could be done with 'new' love interests, but what could make this fun for new and old readers alike is that a good writer that does his homework could hide pre secret war Easter eggs in a story...sort of like what Waid did with the Hawkeye, Black Widow, Dd "fight" from the Bronze Age.

I have to admit, it would take a lot of editorial balls to pull the trigger on a full reboot. I hope they either do it all the way or not at all.