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Kuljit Mithra
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JoeWithoutFear
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argh! I'm so dumb! sorry, I'm new around here and assumed this thread was on the most recent RELEASED issue (#31). so I was voting on that. is there any way to delete the vote I just cast for issue 32!?! ... who knows, I might not like it*.
*I probably will ^_^ |
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thank god for stilt-man
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| Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| JoeWithoutFear wrote: | argh! I'm so dumb! sorry, I'm new around here and assumed this thread was on the most recent RELEASED issue (#31). so I was voting on that. is there any way to delete the vote I just cast for issue 32!?! ... who knows, I might not like it*.
*I probably will ^_^ |
Dude, I'm sure it's fine.  |
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Dimetre
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This issue was really going along well. I enjoyed the opening Jester scene. I enjoyed the scene with Foggy. I really liked the scene with Dr. Strange. When we get to Kentucky, it was entertaining enough, but when we get to the big splash page...
I'm sorry. I don't buy it. That would never happen to Daredevil. His senses are too sharp. Some will try to justify it saying he was distracted, but he's being doing this for a while now. I didn't buy it when it happened in the Murdock Papers, and I'm not buying it now.
Until the next issue explains how this could have happened.... |
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thank god for stilt-man
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Dimetre wrote: | This issue was really going along well. I enjoyed the opening Jester scene. I enjoyed the scene with Foggy. I really liked the scene with Dr. Strange. When we get to Kentucky, it was entertaining enough, but when we get to the big splash page...
I'm sorry. I don't buy it. That would never happen to Daredevil. His senses are too sharp. Some will try to justify it saying he was distracted, but he's being doing this for a while now. I didn't buy it when it happened in the Murdock Papers, and I'm not buying it now.
Until the next issue explains how this could have happened.... |
Does the phrase "Plot induced stupidity" apply here?
Yeah, it made no sense. I did find it somewhat amusing. |
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Acerbus
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It's... another Mark Waid Daredevil issue.
This is the first issue I've bothered buying since the first couple issues when he took over. Thought he sucked then, wasn't surprised to learn that nothing much has changed.
Really can't wait for the guy to move along. This volume has been unreadable tripe for me. |
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Darkdevil
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| Dimetre wrote: | This issue was really going along well. I enjoyed the opening Jester scene. I enjoyed the scene with Foggy. I really liked the scene with Dr. Strange. When we get to Kentucky, it was entertaining enough, but when we get to the big splash page...
I'm sorry. I don't buy it. That would never happen to Daredevil. His senses are too sharp. Some will try to justify it saying he was distracted, but he's being doing this for a while now. I didn't buy it when it happened in the Murdock Papers, and I'm not buying it now.
Until the next issue explains how this could have happened.... |
How exactly is he supposed to be able to 'sense' that coming at him in enough time to avoid it??
I thought it was quite the exciting ending, a good close to a well-paced issue that held a nice ebb and flow throughout, from the Jester's frustration to pow-wowing with Foggy to the nifty consultation with Strange to the Legion of Monsters. Wacky, fun, and terrific art. |
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Dimetre
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:51 am Post subject: SPOILERS |
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| Darkdevil wrote: | How exactly is he supposed to be able to 'sense' that coming at him in enough time to avoid it??
I thought it was quite the exciting ending, a good close to a well-paced issue that held a nice ebb and flow throughout, from the Jester's frustration to pow-wowing with Foggy to the nifty consultation with Strange to the Legion of Monsters. Wacky, fun, and terrific art. |
**** SPOILERS *****
Dodging bullets is something that Daredevil has been able to do for nearly 50 years now. We know that he can sense people 360 degrees and he can hear their heartbeats. He can smell gunpowder at a considerable distance. A person with a gun would present him with danger. He seemed to have calmed down for a few panels when he was in that tree. If there was someone anywhere near the vicinity holding a gun, I think, by now, Daredevil would have stopped whatever soliloquy he was having and concentrated on the gunman. He's always been able to judge the angle at which they're firing, and get out of the way. So no, I'm not buying it. |
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Darkdevil
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| Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:15 am Post subject: Re: SPOILERS |
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| Dimetre wrote: | | Darkdevil wrote: | How exactly is he supposed to be able to 'sense' that coming at him in enough time to avoid it??
I thought it was quite the exciting ending, a good close to a well-paced issue that held a nice ebb and flow throughout, from the Jester's frustration to pow-wowing with Foggy to the nifty consultation with Strange to the Legion of Monsters. Wacky, fun, and terrific art. |
**** SPOILERS *****
Dodging bullets is something that Daredevil has been able to do for nearly 50 years now. We know that he can sense people 360 degrees and he can hear their heartbeats. He can smell gunpowder at a considerable distance. A person with a gun would present him with danger. He seemed to have calmed down for a few panels when he was in that tree. If there was someone anywhere near the vicinity holding a gun, I think, by now, Daredevil would have stopped whatever soliloquy he was having and concentrated on the gunman. He's always been able to judge the angle at which they're firing, and get out of the way. So no, I'm not buying it. |
Yet hasn't it been previously established that woods/forest environment can clutter his radar sense and hamper his ability to track/locate people? The various smells of the forest could also hamper his detection of gunpowder.
It's not so much a distraction, but his being in an unfamiliar environment that hampers his radar sense in the midst of a chaotic situation. |
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Dimetre
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| Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: Re: SPOILERS |
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**** SPOILERS *****
Yet hasn't it been previously established that woods/forest environment can clutter his radar sense and hamper his ability to track/locate people? The various smells of the forest could also hamper his detection of gunpowder.
It's not so much a distraction, but his being in an unfamiliar environment that hampers his radar sense in the midst of a chaotic situation. |
I guess if I'm supposed to believe, from the Frank Miller era, that he can concentrate to the point that he can single out a single cough in a major city, that he can handle a forest environment. Also, considering the scene that came immediately before, I don't think he would be so careless as to not scan with his radar to see if there were any more trigger-happy people around. I grant that wooded environments would present him with a challenge, but I think he could find a way to check. If Waid absolutely doesn't think Daredevil can use his hypersenses properly in a forest, I wish he had written something to indicate that so I could believe the cliffhanger. |
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qtmxd
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| As much as I would take any opportunity to bash Waid's ongoing decimation of DD, this goes on with all of the writers. Sometimes DD does superhuman things with his senses, other times he might as well not have them. He can't be shot or snuck up on except when he is. He ducks explosions, but can be crippled by the equivalent of a dog whistle. Before drugging him, Mysterio walked into Matt's office covered in latex and greasepaint and Matt didn't even notice. So I'll stick to complaining about Waid's generally ridiculous stories and give him a pass on this one. |
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Gianni
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| I really have the feeling Waid is writing random crap since he knows he's leaving anyway and he's got already all possible praise for his run. The story seems so ridiculous, it reminds me of Gerber's unbelievable stuff, and frankly I'm really sick and tired of being treated like a nine-years-old child as far as both plot and art (expecially art) are concerned. Time for the writer to move over, he's had much more than his fifteen minutes celebrity |
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qtmxd
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Yes, this was bad to begin with and just keeps getting worse. As for the art, I've run out of any sense of tact. I've checked his website, looking for evidence that he can actually draw. Not by modern professional standards.
So I'm not just Waid-bashing, I think the last reasonably good DD story was Brubaker's Mr. Fear. He floundered after that, though he left with a potentially interesting set-up with the Hand, that the subsequent amateur writer turned around and made a mess of. I know Waid is a competent writer with a long history who can write mature stuff. Kingdom Come is a classic, and even his DD guest appearance in The Hulk recently felt so different than his DD run. I think this was an honest attempt to do something different, but DD is not Flash, Ant-Man, or the She-Hulk. Wackiness doesn't work for him. |
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thank god for stilt-man
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| Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure what the problem with the art is supposed to be. It's not photo-realistic, but that's hardly the only way to draw a comic. |
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qtmxd
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| He might be the perfect artist for Archie.... just not DD. |
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