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baker · Flying Blind Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 43

This week was just too little at too big a cost. $12 for Shadowland #2, Bullseye, plus Black and White, and they all sucked!! I'm definitely dropping Shadowland, and I'll give the regular DD title one more chance...but man, I hope the next DD writer comes quickly and does better than Diggle.

nott4141 · Flying Blind Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 26

I'm getting close, but I'll most likely hang in there. I agree with you. To be honest, I wasn't really a fan of Brubaker's run either. Too many cliches and one-dimensional dialogue. (I did like his first couple of arcs, though) I always thought they put too much on Brubaker's plate, and he was just doing what he could to meet deadlines.

It looks like they're tyring to run this title into the ground with Shadowland. Implausible story, bad dialogue, and the art just doesn't get it done.

Someone the board commented in another topic string, saying that the Daredevil fanbase was fanatical. I would agree. (Hell, isn't this the only character with his own fansite?) I heard Quesada himself once say Daredevil was his favorite character. Why doesn't Marvel give this title the attention it needs?

DesignDevil · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:02 am Post subject:

Personally, I thought Brubakers arc was brilliant. He, along with Bendis and of course Frank Miller, elevated Murdock beyond just another comic character. I've enjoyed lots of other Daredevil writers, and I've really enjoyed Diggle's run so far. Even Shadowland as gimmicky as it is.

I look at at my (huge) collection of Daredevil comics and I've got a range from genius to mediocre to utter garbage. Thing is, most of the garbage i got from the 50 cent bin for completion sake. This whole "New Man Without Fear" GIMMICK will be the last straw (if it happens)

The local comic shop is run by a friend of mine, and I've already told him: I won't be buying Daredevil if Marvel pulls this replacement stunt. I don't care how temporary, I don't care how its written. I've read comics for 17 years. There is no way to believably have Falcon or Gambit running around as the defender of Hell's Kitchen.

I will probably take all the issues of DD since 501 and Shadowland back to my friend to re-sell at his shop to some gullible fool with money to waste, and re-coup some of my money. Then my Daredevil collection will simply end with the nice poetic and tragic ending of issue 500.

james castle · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:37 am Post subject:

Yeah, I was vaguely excited about a Daredevil centric event but this thing seems to be going off the rails fast. I trade-wait so am just basing this off the reviews I'm seeing but so far not so good.

The New Man Without Fear thing is even more terrifying. Gambit? Gambit? The only hope is that the teasers will end up being a massive misdirection like those "We Are The X-Men" teasers that were up a month ago. There was a week of shots featuring traditional X-Men along side very non-X-Men chartacters. At the end of the day Marvel explained it by saying that it was meant to show that the X-Men are going to be part of the normal Marvel Universe in a bigger way now (?). Hopefully there will be an equally lame explaination for the DD teasers.
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natshuck · Flying Blind Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Posts: 21

I really enjoyed the the first story of the Daredevil: Black and White.

I did not care for the Shadowland: Bullseye #1

Shadowland #2 was ok, I don't like the art on Daredevil.

The covers for the Shadowland have been less than desired except for DD #508.

I figure I will spend the $115.00 cover price for the entire 30 issues of Shadowland and have them bound.

baker · Flying Blind Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 43

DDTattoo · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject:

Personally, I'm only buying the actual 5 issues of Shadowland in addition to the regular monthly title.
If they do replace Matt as DD, I'm definitely out until his inevitable return.

Dimetre · Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:51 am Post subject:

I shall stick out Shadowland. I bought the Bullseye issue, and was dissatisfied. I probably will pick up the Elektra one-shot, and maybe the Spider-Man one as well. But I'm really just tolerating the story right now.

I will join the boycott that seems to already be forming if someone else assumes the Daredevil identity instead of Matt Murdock.

I really don't understand this trend that currently is happening in comics. Maybe Brubaker started it by having Bucky take the lead in Captain America. But then Batwoman took over Detective Comics, the Incredible Hulk's book became the Incredible Herc. Shadowland even has a Power Man mini-series that isn't about Luke Cage. In my view it shows a lot of disrespect for long-standing characters.

The Mast · Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject:

You know what's hilarious?

People probably said that after Stan Lee ditched Daredevil. Think of all they've missed out on.

You're overreacting. Shadowland being to your liking or not, it's been two issues. It's not even Daredevil's series. Why not just drop Shadowland?

None of what you're saying makes sense.

Darkdevil

Minion · Flying Blind Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 62

I liked Black and White (As well as Shadowland and Shadowland Bullseye) The middle story was the best and the Nocenti was probably the worst but that may be because of the format it was in.
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baker · Flying Blind Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 43

Well I didn't like Black and White 'cause all the stories were okay, but they all had really bad endings. The first story, about Murdock restoring his sight, has already been covered in DD vol. 1 #9 and #223, and probably other issues too. I love Peter Milligan, but I thought the conclusion was way too cliche. The second story has good art, and a decent story, but the ending makes the whole thing pointless (like the first story).

My favorite story was the all text one by Ann Nocenti. It has a really strong visceral start, but it's poetic style deteriorates when the plot activates. The thing that really kills the story is near the end when the action is reduced to random words strung together. Actual quote, "Roachkiller corkscrews his rage in a spasm at red man but red slither coils spring soars above and in descent cork pop head crack." Yeah, and that's the best story.

I'm sure I would've felt better if the cover price was $3, $1 per story. And even though (IMO) Nocenti's prose piece was the best, I still felt cheated cause it wasn't even a comic. I was expecting some amazing art by David Aja...

Ryu Murdock · Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:38 am Post subject:

It's a crime to compare DD writers to Miller and Bendis. Even if it's Brubaker or Diggle. Miller and Bendis are on a different league. As much as I wished for Bendis to be on board forever. I knew it was impossible. I enjoy every Daredevil issue, minis, and one-shot because I realistically look at it on it's own and I don't say "That sucks compared to 'The King Of Hell's Kitchen'". I read a damn issue and like it for what it is. I don't compare it to a Miller or Bendis issue. I never expected Brubaker to whip out great stories but he did. I never cared for anything that Diggle wrote before DD but the guy has had quite a few sold-out issues. So we must be reading them, and majority of us are liking them.

Personally, lame or not. I am more than glad to see DD all over Marvel rather than Wolverine or Deadpool!

Ben Reilly was once Spider-Man, and Dick Grayson and also Azrael was once Batman. But ultimately, Spider-Man is Peter Parker and Batman is Bruce Wayne. Same goes for DD and Murdock.
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