Daredevil Message Board

[CyberGhostface]

Well it seems the Owl is down for the count as he was blown away by the Red Hood. A pretty disappointing ending, considering all that Bendis did for the character in his DD run. That, and I'm tired of him killing off characters to give others credibility.

[rgj]

It's halarious how Bendis is shaking up the DD mythos in other Marvel comics (ie. Skullektra and apparently the end of one of DD's oldest foes--and Spidey has so many to choose from). You would think the end of the Owl should have happened in the pages of DAREDEVIL.

The most halarious thing was how the Punisher was thrown so many, albiet minor, bones when he killed all those second rate villains during Civil Crap (or was it in Avengers??--don't know, didn't care or read any of this stuff). Let's face it, all Punisher ever did was kill nameless, faceless, thugish, insignificant mob dregs. But, finally, the Punisher could say he killed Stilt-Man.

And now this Hood character is being put into position for whatever. Another brilliant Bendis idea (ala House of M, Avengers Disassemble and Civil Crap). Wow. And, my, how it will affect the entire Marvel Universe!!!! Wow!!!! For God's sake, man, just write a comic book and let it only affect those characters in the comic. Enough with the "I have to affect the entire Marvel Universe, 'cause I'm Bendis!" Look, Brian, we don't care. We could care less about your Earth shattering plots. If Wolverine farts in AVENGERS, we don't want to smell it in the pages of Daredevil.

Enough already.

rgj

p.s. Thank God for Vertigo comics.

[Dimetre]

[the gael]

omg, where is the guy who wrote " underboss " and " out " ?

This is ridiculous. first, bendis was never able to write the owl in a dangerous and menacing way ( his owl was a joke ) and then he kill him off outside the dd book, only to give credit to the red hood.

It's bad, really bad.

[The Overlord]

Oh, Owl will be back in no time. Remeber Paul Jenkins killed Owl in the 2001 Spidey/DD mini. Then Bendis brought him back in Hardcore, with no explanation for his return. It is trend with B-list DD villains: Owl, Mr. Fear and Purple Man were killed and brought back with no explanation. Someone is going to forget Owl was killed and will use him again in the future.

[Gloria]

[james castle]

Bendis: I've got this new kick ass idea.
Reader: What's that?
B: I'm going to revive an obscure BKV character and make him...wait for it...the Kingpin of Super Villians.
R: The what?
B: The Kingpin of Super Villians.
R: I don't get it. Like the Kingpin? Like Wilson Fisk?
B: No, no, it's The Hood but he's the Kingpin of Super Villians.
R: Who's the Hood?
B: He's a guy BKV thought up. Everyone really like Y the Last Man, Ex Machina and Runaways so I figure they'll like me if I bring back a BKV character.
R: Why don't you make up your own character?
B: I made up Ronin.
R: Okay, never mind.
B: Anyway, this guy is going to be the Kingpin of Super Villians.
R: I honestly don't know what that means.
B: He's the Kingpin of Super Villians.
R: You're said that. Can you explain it any better? Like, the whys and hows of it?
B: He's the Kingpin of Super Villians.
R: Well does he do anything, why should be care?
B: He killed the Owl.
R: I hate you.
B: I hate myself.
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JC

So why can't you see the funny side?
Why aren't you laughing?

[The Overlord]

[Gloria]

[The Overlord]

[Gloria]

[Forrest]

[CyberGhostface]

[harryhausen]

I know, I know - I was worried, too, about the impact on DD's world that Bendis's NA was gonna have. He is using Echo and DD was almost a team member, etc.

I won't get into it full-bore, but I just wanna say that the issue in question (NA #33) was great. Start to finish - exciting, tons of stuff happens, and I think the Skrull plot might be cool.

I'm a newbie, admittedly, but I think it's cool that Bendis spans the MU. He revives characters and ties in points from all over the past 40 years of Marvel. That's interesting, to me. I admire the pluck it takes to tangle with these sacred cows. All the 'events' that are so derided so often (HoM, Disassembled, etc. - even CW [not Bendis's "fault," by the way]) are interesting. I bet that in 10 years when we look back at these trades and see the progression, it will stand the test of time. At least Bendis is trying to do something.

Also, I don't care about the Owl. It makes perfect sense that the Hood would kill him off to make a mark in the 'underworld.' Was there all this outcry when Brubaker showed Matt breaking all the Owl's appendages in a matter of moments while in Ryker's? Clearly, his efficacy as a villain is in question.

Lastly - and here comes the heresy - I like NA and MA and think Bendis is great. Many of the things he is lauded for (snappy dialogue, characterizations) are, to me, his weak points. I like his over-arching plots. Up to and including the idea that he's doing some of it on the fly. Here's the kicker: I'm no big fan of his run on DD. Didn't like how talky and silly Matt seemed at times. I think Bendis does better writing Illuminati-style plots with lots of characters than the introspective DD we typically love. Plus, almost nothing happens in his run on DD. You can read a Bendis-penned issue of DD in moments, it seems.

I know it's tough to stomach when a creator meddles in a comic outside of his immediate purview. My advice: Don't read any Avengers titles or minis. If you really, really hate it (I'm thinking of you here, Castle ) - don't even read about it online. Spend your time reading comics you love and don't sweat the rest.

It's like how I pretend the Rolling Stones all died right after Goat's Head Soup.

[CyberGhostface]